Stalag VIIIB/344 Prisoners of War

Memories of former prisoners at Lamsdorf and associated working parties


Private A. Mclwain

DOES ANYONE RECOGNISE THIS FORMER POW?

 

 

The name on the back is Pte A. McIlwain. William McAleer says: "I have recently been going through some old family photos and came across a photo of a gentleman who I am not familiar with within my family tree, but I have a feeling that he was one of my mother's uncles. He is in uniform and on the rear of the photo is a stamp mark Stalag V111B GeprUft: Nr.28. The soldiers name is Pte. A.McILwain ( 15499) and the photo is addressed stalag-VIII B--(E360), Germany. It would be great if someone could supply some more info on his identity or history it would be of great interest to me". If you have any more information you can contact William through the guestbook. Does anyone have any more information about E360?

 

 

New Zealand Doctors at Lamsdorf

From Keith Jack
26th May 2009

My late father Lt G B Jack SAAFwas sent from Stalag Luft III to Stalag 344 to the hospital to have his appendix removed. He always said that a New Zealand doctor performed the operation. He then returned to Stalag Luft III (East Compound) Any list of doctors or any news on this snippet of his POW life would be gratefully received.

Reply from Philip Baker:

I have some information about NZ doctors at Stalag VIIIB/344.  One, Dr John Borrie was serving as a doctor with the New Zealand army in Greece when he was captured by the Germans, and ended up at Lamsdorf. He wrote a book called Despite Captivity - a Doctor's Life as Prisoner of War. It is possible to get copies second-hand, but they are very expensive (around £80 or more).

Other New Zealand doctors there included Captain Stevenson-Wright Captain Foreman and Major S. G. de Clive Lowe. 

These links provide a lot of information:

(They relate to the New Zealand Electronic Text Centre: www.nzetc.org) 

http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2PMed-pt2-c5-1.html

http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2PMed-pt2-c5-3.html

 

The hospital facilities at Stalag VIII-B were among the best in all Stalags. The so-called Lazarett was set up on separate site with eleven concrete buildings. Six of them were self-contained wards, each with space for about 100 patients. The others served as treatment blocks with operating theatres, X-ray and laboratory facilities, as well as kitchens, a morgue, as well as accommodations for the medical staff.

 

The lazarett was headed by a German officer with the title Oberst Arzt (Colonel Doctor), but the staff was made up entirely of prisoners. They included general physicians and surgeons, even a neuro-surgeon, psychiatrist, anaesthesiologist, radiologist.

 

The Lazarett at Lamsdorf was run on the lines of any other German hospital, with a German area Chefarzt, having the rank of Oberstabsarzt, but with a British (that includes Commonwealth) staff of specialists and assistants under him – some fourteen British medical staff in all, including 3 surgeons, 1 assistant surgeon, 3 physicians, 3 psychiatrists, 2 anaesthetists, 1 radiologist and 1 padre. The chief dispenser was a German.

 

The hospital, opened on 13 October 1941, was planned to serve the needs of over 30,000 men and was undoubtedly the best designed and equipped hospital for British prisoners of war in Germany. It occupied six acres of flat land in a forest and its eleven concrete buildings were fitted with double windows and wooden shutters. In every room was a large, efficient tiled stove. Six buildings were self-contained parallel blocks of wards, each holding from seventy to one hundred patients. The five service buildings were the staff, administrative and treatment blocks, kitchen and morgue. In the area was a large brick Red Cross as a sign for aircraft.

 

The ward blocks were divided up into large and small wards, with service rooms as in a modern hospital with the necessary sanitary conveniences. The operating theatres were well equipped with efficient sterilising and full X-ray and laboratory facilities. Although the overall control was in the hands of a German medical officer, full control of the clinical work was eventually given to the British medical officers working under a senior British officer. The nursing orderlies were all British and lived at the hospital, while a daily party of general duty men was drawn from Stalag VIIIB. There was a German chief dispenser in control of the stores, but otherwise the staff of the service departments was British. Besides physicians and surgeons there were British anaesthetic, ophthalmic, radiological, neurosurgical, psychiatric and ENT specialists available either on the regular staff or visiting the hospital from time to time.

 

When Lazarett Lamsdorf opened the staff largely consisted of British Expeditionary Force medical orderlies. A few early arrivals in Germany from Greece, New Zealanders and others, were also chosen for the staff. These men were particularly keen; and, encouraged by their medical officers, who gave them regular courses in nursing, anatomy, physiology, etc., they rapidly achieved a remarkably high standard of nursing. The ‘ward charges’ were fully qualified state registered male nurses, who ran their wards with precision be they medical, surgical, infectious or mental. The office staff, too, trained in the BEF general hospital, had no difficulty in coping immediately with the German hospital methods. The special departments also, i.e., X-ray, theatre, dispensary, laboratory, massage, pack store, kitchens, were all run with a high and pleasing standard of efficiency. The quarters given to orderlies there were better than they had ever dreamed of in their philosophies as prisoners of war, and none wished to return to the squalor of the main stalag. There was, therefore, an incentive to work well.

 

A mixed medical commission visited the hospital twice yearly to inspect and also to determine which patients should be repatriated. Full case records were kept, with copies available for the Germans and the original for the United Kingdom, German forms being used. Admissions from the camp were arranged from a waiting list drawn up by the senior physician and surgeon at clinics in the camp, and urgent cases were admitted at any time. Special accommodation was provided for the infectious and mental cases. The rations supplied by the Germans were meagre, but the Red Cross parcels enabled a satisfactory diet to be maintained and four meals a day were served in the wards.

 

Entertainment and sport were permitted freely. In general, the Germans appear to have provided an excellent hospital, with all supplies satisfactory except the rations, and to have allowed the British medical personnel to carry out their work with a minimum of control.

 

Captured with the British prisoners were several specialists of note who were employed in their own specialities. Major Henderson, RAMC, a neurosurgeon, was resident for four months on two occasions at Lazarett Lamsdorf doing nerve suture work. Major Cuffy, Rome, visited Lazarett Lamsdorf  in 1942 and 1943 from Obermas-feld to do ear-nose-throat surgery, and Major Wright-Thomson was in charge of the ophthalmic services for Stalag VIIIB.

 

Their services were invaluable to captors and captives alike.

 

Dental Treatment: Fortunately for the prisoners of war there were dentists among their number in captivity, and many hospitals had a dentist attached. In captivity there was considerable deterioration of teeth due probably to, first, lack of regular maintenance work, and, second, to a high carbohydrate diet. The volume of work offering was beyond the capacity of the few dentists available. From the point of view of the prisoners it was a blessing that the New Zealand Mobile Dental Unit was captured in Greece, as its officers did magnificent work throughout the length and breadth of Germany, and their training and efficiency was found to be of a much higher standard than that of dentists of other nationalities.

A similar mixed 600-bed hospital was commenced at Tost (not far from Lamsdorf) in May 1944, functioning until the area was liberated by the Russians in January 1945. It was under command of Major S. G. de Clive Lowe, NZMC. 

James Victor Allen

I believe my father was held as a prisoner of war at this camp during the war, and would like to ask through your site if anyone can remember him, and perhaps might be able to provide me with details of dates etc, and also any other information about him.
Unfortunatly my father died when I was seven, so he never spoke to me about his life, so I have very little to go on.
If you can place this request, his name was James Victor Allen, born june 23, 1922 at Oxford. His address after the war was Hut 15, B camp, Worminghall, Buckinghamshire.
I am unsure as to what regiment he was in, but presume it would have been one local to Oxford.
Many thanks,
Les Allen
Hawthorn@ntlworld.com
07931 939116

American Plane Crash

I research a case of four American airmen, who were shot down on October 13th, 1944, were found dead, were buried but after the war their graves were never found (or were found but never identified).

Documents mention that some bodies were buried by the British POWs, a man of confidence from BAB21 is mentioned, and Harry Johnson from Coldstream Guards (man of confidence from Raigfeldt? camp) is mentioned, too. BTW, is there anyway to find out if Harry was the man of confidence from BAB21?

I am wondering if anyone knows anything which relates to the American bombers which went down near Blechhammer on October 13th 1944. There were at least three of them.

If you have any information that could help to shed more light on this research case, particularly the burial location, this would be fantastic.

I hope you can help
me.

Szymon Serwatka

sserwatka@yahoo.com

Lance Corporal AE Wilkinson

I am looking for Lance Corporal A.E. Wilkinson, who was a British POW at Blechhammer. When Col. Arnold (commander of the 485th Bomb Group) was shot down over Blechhammer on August 22nd 1944, he parachuted into a British POW camp and Wilkinson was the first person who approached him. Wilkinson had been captured at Dieppe. Wilkinson tried to help him and Colonel Arnold gave Wilkinson a knife. Wilkinson wrote to Arnold's mother and told her that he was alive. Wilkinson also sent the knife back to Colonel Arnold after the war. Do you think there is any chance we could find Wilkinson or someone in his family? Arnold's daughter would very much like to contact him (if he's alive) or someone in his family.

Szymon Serwatka

sserwatka@yahoo.com

 

Duke Boyle

Duke Boyle, a leader of a gang in Stalag VIIIB during WWII is recalled vividly by a group of Australian and New Zealand fellow POWs. I am currently writing about their experiences in the camps and Duke Boyle's name keeps cropping up. Is he known to anyone?

Paul Rea
Bondi, Australia
05/08/04
Email:
prea@swiftdsl.com.au

Albert Reas

My Father, Albert Reas (Bert or Lofty) was a paratrooper (2nd Bat) captured in Sicily. He was a POW at Stalag VIIIB. He escaped with two other soldiers. A Canadian and an Australian and three Czech women. They worked in the papermill at Lamsdorf from where they escaped. After a long and dangerous journey they finaly made it to Odessa where the men boarded a hospital ship bound for the U.K. Unfortunately the women were not allowed on board. My father, who is still alive would desperatley like to know what happened to these people. Sadly he remembers nothing. No names or rank etc. Does this story ring any bells with anyone. Please contact me at paulreas@pavilion.co.uk


Thank you.

US plane crash Blechammer 1944

January 2007

I was in contact with you in 2005 regarding my search for father’s lost crew who were shot down over Blechammer South on Dec 26, 1944.   

I noticed in a posting that you have been to Waldemar’s museum. Maybe you saw the materials he has on display about them … the Arthur Lindell Crew?

 One of Waldemar’s associates, Edward Haduch, has recently been looking in to the possibility that it was personnel from BAB20, rather than the actual Lamsdorff or 344 camps that found three of their crew members and, through their superior, reported the deaths to the Red Cross.

 We are still trying to determine where these men may have been buried. 

 Is anyone in contact with any former POWs that may have been in the Blechammer camp over Christmas in 1944? 

 From what you know, do you believe that any of the POWs may have been used as a burial party for such an incident?

 The following is a list of the entire missing crew:

Lindell, Arthur E. - 1st Lt 0823085  Pilot              DED

Gilliland, Avery M - 2nd Lt 0682847  Co-Pilot           DED

Boslow, Howard     - 2nd Lt 02063344 Navigator          DED

Ryan, Joseph D.    - Sgt    11116316 Right Waist Gunner DED

Abramowich, Alex   - Sgt    32417852 Left Waist Gunner  KIA

Lajkowicz, Joseph F- S/Sgt  32323643 Nose Gunner        KIA

Burns, Travis M.   - Sgt    34916638 Upper Gunner       DED

Yaw, Myron L.      - Sgt    3575256  Ball Gunner        DED

Papadopulos, Michael C Sgt  11139313 Tail Gunner        KIA

 The three crewmen reported to the Red Cross are marked KIA

Abramowich

Lajkowicz

Papadopulos

 

Thank you very much,

Barry Wareham

Pennsylvania USA

Bwareham@Earthlink.Net

Thomas Wagg & Jack Lister

Can you give any information about Thomas Wagg who was a P.O.W. at Stalag VIIIB for four years having been captured from St. Valerie in France. He served with the Sherwood Foresters. Also captured at the same time were his two brothers, Edward (Ted) and Alfred (Alf).

 

My Dad is trying to find out any information about Thomas' time served in the war. If you could possibly help him out with any information he would be so grateful.

He mentioned that my Grandad's best friend was named Jack Lister. He lived in Tideswell, Derbyshire. We are unsure if he is still alive or not.

 

We are trying to trace their journey from St. Valerie to Lamsdorf. Did they march there? Did they have transport? Who knows? My father did mention that he worked in a salt mine, and looking at some old photographs on the internet we came across a photograph that we thought was him, however we are not completely certain. We have so much more we want to find out, and with your help we may just do so.

 

If you have any information regarding this we would be very grateful indeed.

 

 

Tony and Steve Wagg.

 

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